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Actualy we built it to self ventilate. 8 X 15 with one long side about 3" higher than the other. On the high side we made an 8 in wide area with just hail screen to let out heat and keep varmits out. There are 2 windows with hail screen on the oposi…
would a black foundation that soaked up the suns warmth combined with a small room configured as a dehumidifying vent with a roof vent work to keep the air circulating and provide a small breeze. the temperature would stay warm but it would be easie…
Wow, I havent been here for awhile, many new members! Well, I finnaly got the chicken house built and have some 5 doz baby chicks that are all doing well. (they are sooooo cute!) It is a ways away from electricity though so I started looking for sol…
Royce, I was blessed with a great relationship with my mom and when she "relocated" I missed her very much. That was almost 25 years ago now and I still miss her but because there were many close times (good and bad) the painful part of the seperati…
This IC building is hard work and can be pretty heartbreaking. I had a post on the intentional communities website a while back, then actually took out an ad. Had a few people respond but we are fairly remote although only a mile or so from a major…
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- I'm looking to join, form or already affiliated with an Intentional Community?
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- How did you find A Place for Gathering?
- I found the link on the fellowship for intentional community site. The first time I visited there were less than 1/2 doz. members. I guess I am over due for signing up.
- About Me:
- I look for, and try to perpetuate, win, win situations.
- Hobbies:
- Most of my hobbies have supported me at one time or another so I dont know if you can really call them hobbies. Music, jewelry making, other crafts.
- What kind of Skill and Support can you offer a community?
- 35 ac on a year round (although shallow) river. Currently both myself and my husband are working away from the property to finnish paying it off. We are close but this doesnt leave time to do a lot of the things (some labor intensive) that need to be done. I have collected a lot of materials to build shelters for, and hope to purchase 2 dexter cows 2 or 3 goats and a bunch of chickens come spring time. The trick is, I cant get the animals until we have some other people because we just dont have time to do it all by ourselves. (actually Tim is much less interested in all of this than I am so the real thing is I cant take care of these animals by myself and work away from home too.) It could be a great short cut for folks without a lot of cash but have willingness to put in the work. We are willing to change the land from sole ownership to something else????, if and when people come that are willing to put as much work into it as we have. (not necessairily money)
- My Visions or Views for Intentional Communities are:
- Relatively like minded people working togeather to be self suficient and sustainable.
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- At 5:00pm on March 3, 2009,
solarman said…
- That's pretty high to pump and yes I remember the flood issue. Well the pump I was looking at only goes 82 feet so that's out....did you ever look in to how much the river drops from the entry point on your property to the exit point?
- At 1:16pm on March 3, 2009,
solarman said…
- HI,
Remember the conversation about water pumps (Ram pumps) well I can't remember how high you said it was up the bluff....still thinkin' about your operation and a good option for ya'll. I'm looking at another type pump but it is limited to 82 feet high. Alan
- At 10:54pm on December 28, 2008,
solarman said…
- What area of Texas R U in??? Alan
- At 1:21pm on December 4, 2008,
Ben Corson said… - Linda was born April '52, and I in January, 1951. We are about at the same age as you two, pretty close. Classes of '69 and '70.
I wonder how young people will click with a coupla hip ol' geezers like us. At this stage, though, I just want them to carry on & even reap most of the rewards...I just wanta see our goals accomplished.
I kinda think I've done my bit.
What scares me about the apprentice thing is the amount of supervision and instruction required before the students are capable of safely and efficiently doing the work. Then, they would leave and move on to whatever tickles 'em next.
About the homeless thing, I too have thought of that...surely in these times, there must be a good, solid nice young couple that can see what the world is coming to, and why...that have just lost their jobs and / or home due to the current (engineered) crises. Maybe even a couple that have always wanted to live this way, just couldn't afford it; maybe even a couple that are capable of enjoying nature and Her beauty, who have a strong spiritual bent, too.
Here, I think that the best way to approach this search is to go through the Ministerial Ass'n., they might have a grapevine, and discussion groups, who knows. Maybe they even are tied in with groups that directly work with displaced young families such as those.
- At 1:39am on December 4, 2008,
Ben Corson said…
- BTW...those ads NEVER say that newcomers can come and take over the farm. It's more of a student situation, for room & board, and often, with an adequate 'stipend'.
I think that is more where we'll end up heading....at least, maybe to get to know and like certain individuals that come, maybe create a core group of multi-generational friends...and THEN invite 'em to 'come aboard'.
- At 1:36am on December 4, 2008,
Ben Corson said…
- Hey, I just had a thought. Have ya'll ever heard of the Small Farmer's Journal, or Rural Heritage? Both are periodicals of the subculture we belong to (old hippies morphed into progressive farmers and ranchers, kinda like the Grangers of the last century), or "the draft horse subculture", meaning 'English", non-Amish, that is. ANYWHO....
In their classifieds, they have a "Situations" (SFJ) or "Apprenticeship Network", (Rural Heritage), where people like us can run a little ad for young folks looking to get started in the beyond-the-sidewalks, sometimes off-grid, self-reliant-for-freedom, small (traditional) farmer & rancher type lifestyle.
Google 'em and they'll come up, with online versions, if I recall correctly. Also with snailmail and phone contact info, etc.
- At 1:27am on December 4, 2008,
Ben Corson said…
- Exactly, GeorgeAnn!
When I was around age 20, there were thousands, nay millions of us, that were ready and raring to "go back to the land", esp. community. it is true that only a handful of all those communes are still around today.
They were usually pretty wild places, because we had no other generations---yet---to force us to behave as adults. But soon enough came children, and then that demanded responsibilty, and most of us took the old tried-and-proven route to debt peonage, being the straight family man (or woman) with a mortgage and all that BS. Well...not all BS, though. Families demand stable situations...children need that.
Now here we are, being done raising the kids, and looking around for young people to share our lives and our land with, all we get is a deafening silence. And that includes from our own children. I understand the legitimate need to go and make a life for yourself, independent of Mom & Dad.
In the case of young people who don't know us at all, I think that their reluctance is also understandable. But then, why are they on sites like this and ic.org and so forth, if they are not ready to get with the goal?
I guess it comes down to membership and ownership. That's the tough nut, and of course, related to that, is the issue of ownership / control / means of governance of the group.
I wonder if all concerned would be happy with a land trust, what? I do understand that nobody wants to become a serf on someone else's land, do all the hard work, and then have to leave. That is nonsense. It really does seem, sometimes, as though the only way is to throw open the doors, and have everyone who comes as new members have full opportunity to pitch in, build together a future with a consensus type arrangement, and generally behave as a group of equals, homesteading on what was just opened for setlement...equal claims.
Of course, since we have 25 years of ownership, 21 years of living here full-time, hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars, our children's formative years, and a LOT of hard work invested in this place, I'm not ready to just throw open the floodgates just yet.
Couple all that, with the fact that people with little in & little invested, have equally little incentive to stay and pull through the tough times and see everything through, compared to if they owned a substantial, hard-to-come-by, dearly-purchased, stake in things. Yes?
Please share with me some of what you two have been thinking. I'm getting a little stymied here.
Are you familiar with the term, "land trust"..? What areas of concept and ideas toward this problem have your studies shown, that appeal to you?
Hope you are well & staying warm. --- Ben
- At 1:48am on December 2, 2008,
Ben Corson said…
- Welcome, George Ann! Pleased to meet you! We are doing something similar to what you & Tim are doing.
Would love to talk with you sometime as to how, or what form, the new form of ownership / sharing would look like. That's kind of a stumbling block for us...so many things to consider!
Meantime, Peace & Joy to you both....
- At 12:37pm on December 1, 2008,
☼Royce☼ said… - Welcome! Glad you have joined.
Blessings,
Royce
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